Why do nice guys finish last?

Your not alone.I know this all too well.Theres a few other here as well who know it too.

As for hearing people complaining about their relationships... there is only so much you can know about someone when you first meet them or only see them on occasion. Getting close to them and being with them on a daily basis(like when you start a relationship) can show you sides of a person that you never knew was there to begin with.

I just think we are a small number in a bigger world.

Thanks for the moral support,its nice to see someone cares about us nice guys*thumbs up*

From personal experience, I can say that what the Heartless Bitches say in the Scivore provided is pretty on the money, if worded or shock factor. Hate to admit it, but I was that "Nice Guy." Looking back, I literally CRINGE at myself. I think it all might come from my lack of social interaction, specifically with the ladies, and my natural state of nervousness. The thing is, there's nothing really saying that you WILL finish last (Depending on the race :D :D !), because all of the things about myself that drive me up the wall, all my little foibles that held me back before, some people found them endearing. You gotta realise your strengths and play to them. It's tough at first, but doable.

Also, SquareChick knows the score. Karma has a tendency to bite you in the ass something vicious.

I think nice guys are not social enough most of the time to meet quality women. In order to meet good smart women you have to put your self in a target rich environment. Alot of women don't realize they talking to loser to later on in life. Then they oh yea...hmm that guy that was nice to me all those years.....he was acutally good for me....but by then its too late.There is nothing wrong with being a nice sweet guy ...but just as well as I like to be entertained by a ps3 ...face it people like excitement. Women want the sweet guy..but they want the excitment too.....nothing is worse than a boring go by the book relationship. Women like passion and some sweet guys just cant give it.....I think if you can combine both sweet and exciting then you got something there. *good luck sexi*

^Agreed,Im not giving up...More power to us Geeky Nice Guys

Pre warning: this does no apply to ALL people, just some..... Now: It is documented that women respond and act off of what they FEEL not that logically makes sense. The idea is to get a woman to FEEL they like you... there is plenty of material out there on how to do this without taking advantage of them. Now the answer to why bad guys finish first? simple they know how to make women FEEL a cetain way, but also take advantage of it. So even though the situation is logically wrong it feels right. Makes sense? if no do homework. So get a reading and learn how to adopt those 'traits' but not use them for evil. again DISCLAIMER: once again this applies to the 'normal' curve of society, so dont hunt me down and burn me at the stake as i am not trying to start a flame war here, just noting my personal obverations / experience

Ok, this may come off a little pissed, cause well when you get dumped for a jackass on Xbox live, especially after you've done EVERYTHING for the girl, you get a little perturbed. Girls want to SAY they want a nice guy, and all this guff, but in reality they want a bad boy and aren't going to go with a nice guy anytime soon. same as the no drama thing..almost EVERY girl that says no drama is in fact a drama queen. I've dated many "no drama" types and they always had a mega crisis of the day that was retardedley mudane. I'm a musician, and even THAT has not helped with the "nice guy" label..there ya go..act like a douche, get a girl who'll constantly say she wants a nice guy, and she'll stay with you..be a nice guy, get dumped for a douche. that's how it is. every girl i've ever been with is now with a douche, and CONSTANTLY complains about him, and how she made a mistake, etc.. but do they leave said douche? NOPE. so my advice is douche it up a bit.

Well it's been about a year since I posted. I have managed to refine my thought process into this... Women want to know that you are confident in you actions, have a HAPPY life of your own, are emotionally sound and have their best interest at mind. "bad boys" know how to manipulate these wants to their advantage. I believe most "nice guys" do have these qualities. The key is presenting them to the world, all the time. The best way to do that is to run your race the same regardless if anybody is looking or not, and don't worry if the "bad boy" is ahead of you. You hit it on the head Imperialis on the timid part. It is also VERY possible that she probably isn't right for you or hasn't emotionally matured all the way yet. This does take time on your part also to mature these traits into a smooth, presentable package. Remember don't change you, just polish what you got and make it presentable.

haha, fair enough